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Holy Zeitgeist Batman! Zeitgeist The Movie, An Eye Opener!

July 29, 2007

Mr. C just finished watching an astounding video called “Zeitghist“, which is a German word literally meaning “time (Zeit) spirit (Geist)” but in practical terms it means “the spirit of the age”.

The movie is broken into three sections:

Part one covers the mythology of Christianity and proposes that modern Christianity is in reality a continuation of previous Astrological religions. The closest example would be the Egyptian religion that predates Christianity by over 1500 years.

This part was completely new to Mr. C. He was always aware of “pagan” influences on Christianity like Christmas, Easter, and idol worship ( think statues of Jesus). However this film strongly argues that Christianity is most likely a continuation of several pagan religions that are all based on astrology. This part will probably be the most enlightening or shocking part of the movie for most of TC’s reader(s?).

Part two covers the mythology of 9/11 and gathers together several sources that indicate or prove that 9/11 most likely was an inside job. None of this was a shock to Mr. C, because he has seen other movies that say the same thing.

Part Three covers the formation of the private entity know in America as the Federal Reserve. It lays the groundwork of how it works and how it has and still is manipulating our lives, including inflation , unemployment, war, peace and international trade deals that affect all US citizens.

The film takes all three parts, Religion, 9/11, and the Federal Reserve and ties them all up together showing how each is being used to basically snow over the public in large and allows the corporate elite to use and abuse everybody in the pursuit of power and wealth.

Mr. C thought this is was a really good movie to help open up peoples minds that they have been used and lied to by their governments and corporations. Mr. C would advise that people not believe anything that they hear or see in this movie just on the movie makers word, but use their own minds and research every part that they are not knowledgeable of.

To the movie makers credit, they have a statement that basically shadows Mr. C’s words of caution along with a list of sources used to make this movie.

Thank you for your interest in Zeitgeist.
Zeitgeist was created as a not for profit expression to inspire people to start looking at the world
from a more critical perspective and to understand that very often things are not what the
population at large think they are. The information in Zeitgeist was established over a year long period
of research and the current Source page on this site lists the sources used / referenced.
Soon, an interactive transcript will be online with detailed footnotes and links.

It’s important to point out that there is a tendency to simply disbelieve things that are
counter to our understanding, without the necessary research performed.
For example, some information contained in Part 1 and Part 3, specifically, is not obtained
by simple keyword searches on the Internet. You have to dig deeper. For instance,
very often people who look up “Horus” or “The Federal Reserve” on the Internet
draw their conclusions from very general or biased sources. Online encyclopedias or text book
Encyclopedias often do not contain the information contained in Zeitgeist. However, if one takes
the time to read the sources provided, they will find that what is being presented is
based on documented evidence. Any corrections, clarifications & further points regarding the film
are found on the Clarifications page.
Downloadable formats are also now available, along with DVDs
by request.

That being said, It is my hope that people will not take what is said
in the film as the truth, but find out for themselves, for truth is
not told, it is realized.


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  1. July 29, 2007 5:30 pm

    OK, but don’t forget that all the mumbo jumbo about virgin birth etc. is a perversion of the actual movement that the historical Jesus led, which was against the corrupt ruling priest class of his time, the pharisees. In fact this film seems much too biased gainst Christianity as it hardly mentions the old testament, or Torah, which of course is also based on mythical elements derived from even more ancient myths.

    Many people believe that Judaism invented monotheism which is blatantly false–the egyptians believed in one all encompassing godhead and the Jewish god Jehovah, Yaweh, etc. was considered one god among many–hence his being a jealous god who demanded loyalty from the people he “chose”.

    In fact one hardly sees Christianity used to any great effect in political affairs these days, but Talmudic Judaism and its perverted offspring political Zionism ARE in fact being used to cause major problems in the world. It would be quite interesting to see a Zeitgesit like film made about the Babylonian Talmud, which includes such gems as the origin of black people being due to Noah’s son Ham being cursed with black skin, kinky hair, big lips, and large genitalia as a result of having castrated and raped his own father while he slept off a bender!

  2. July 30, 2007 10:53 am

    Thanks for the comment RT. I agree that the first part seems anti-Christian. I merely presented the file here because a lot of the first part was completely new to me.

    If you look at the teaching of “Christ” he did speak out against hypocrisy, greed, envy, lust and abuse of power. Personally I believe in God, what ever it, he, she? may be. However I have never liked religion per say, because it often, if not always, perverts the teachings of God and Jesus.

    I figure it this way, If you actually try to live by what “Christ” was teaching loving, forgiving and treating others like you would like to be treated, etc, then it only makes your life better and that of others better.

    When I die and I find out that there is no God then so what? I am a fool and my ashes will forever be labeled as one. If I die and I find out that there is a God, then I probably have some explaining to do for more than not kowtowing to people who use religion to manipulate people.

    In the end if you use anything to hurt, oppress, and manipulate people be it politics, religion, intimidation, or violence you are doing the wrong thing. Your “beliefs” don’t mean a thing if you purposely hurt and use others.

  3. Ryan Toronyi permalink
    November 14, 2007 12:43 am

    Despite your opinion of the movie Zeitgeist, lets remember that we know more today then we knew yesterday – this is a constant truth.

    Not all truths are hidden, some are obvious:

    WELCOME TO THE HUMAN RACE
    Article by: Ryan P. Toronyi

    ~ STATEMENT TO HUMANITY ~

    The key to knowledge is the ability to organized and understand information…
    Do not support what you don’t agree with…

    I felt a need to examine my life. I discovered truths that changed my realities…
    I’m not sure if my views are changing as much as my beliefs in my views…
    An intelligent person is the first one to debate their opinions…

    ~ OUR EXISTENCE ~

    You are born without understanding or faith. Your natural instincts are changed as you are taught who you are and who you should become…

    WE EXIST AS A FORM OF ENERGY WITH THE ABILITY TO COMPREHEND OUR ENVIRONMENT FROM A SMALL AREA IN THE BACK OF OUR BRAINS:

    – We don’t see with our eyes, we see through our eyes…. We actually perceive an image, translate and comprehend our environment within a physical area inside our brain that hasn’t directly experienced light in any form since? This is true about all of your senses: Hearing, Sight, Taste, Smell, and Touch.

    WE EXIST AS SOMETHING BEYOND THE PHYSICAL FORM:

    If you take away my flesh, who I am remains…

    – Categorize a body into small enough pieces and you have the ability to witness that in the absence of any piece of a physical existence a personality remains, we can only destroy or change the physical.
    – Our existence beyond the physical cannot be identified as more than a form of energy (society has and continues to debate this – the element of a soul).
    – We are unique, as much as science has and will continue to explain about our genetic recipe, ultimately as a person we exist before conception. No two sperm will create the same results.
    – You are unique before conception, the energy of who you are creates who you become, and the deeper science investigates the more we realize about our existence.
    – Our physical bodies are biological machines we use to experience this existence, a machine that is fragile and can be destroyed… but still just a machine.

    WE ARE EQUAL IN EVERY MEASURE (ASIDE FROM OUR PHYSICAL FORM WHICH ULTIMATELY HOLDS NO RELEVANCE) WITH OTHER MEMBERS OF THE HUMAN RACE, MOST IMPORTANT WE ARE ONLY AS GREAT AS THE COMPLETE COLLECTIVE OF OUR SPECIES:

    – This is important, because in the long list of disgusting attributes human kind has developed that set us aside from the other species we share this planet with – we have with complete ignorance allowed members of our species to believe they’ve obtained supremacy of power, value, and importance over the rest of us.

    WE ARE NOT PROPERTY.
    WE HAVE MORALS AND A CONSCIENCE.
    WE TEACH AND LEARN BY EXAMPLE.
    WE ARE INTELLIGENT.
    WE ARE AND NEED TO CONTINUE IMPROVING.

    Never allow anyone to tell you what to believe as truth…

    ~ OUR FEDERAL GOVERNING SYSTEMS ~

    Although I believe at one time our governments worked for societies. I now have no doubts that societies are working for the governments, ask yourself if that’s right…

    What is the purpose of our federal governments?
    Imagine if our local municipalities existed without any higher form of government. Imagine if your tax dollars went directly back into the community in which you live and work.

    THERE IS ABSOLUTLY NO REASON THE MEMBERS OF ANY COMMUNITY NEED OUTSIDE AUTHORITY.

    FEDERAL HEALTH CARE IS NOT WORKING, FEDERAL SCHOOL SYSTEMS LACK INTELLIGENCE, FEDERAL TAXES FUND WARS, AND THE LIST GOES ON…

    FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS SERVE ONE MAJOR PURPOSE – POPULATION CONTROL, WITH THE GOAL TO OBTAIN THE ABILITY TO ENFORCE COMPLETE CONTROL OVER SOCIETY. FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS DON’T WORK FOR THE PEOPLE. THEY WORK TOGETHER WITH OTHER FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS FOR THE PURPOSE OF INTERNATIONAL CONTROL.

    The federal government doesn’t care about you, it’s robbing you. The federal government is limiting what you do, where you go, what you consume, etc…

    They pretend to own you, and it’s a shame just how many of us believe they do…

    ~ OUR RELIGIONS ~

    As much as we will ever know about our existence, I believe firmly that only an ignorant person would assume that we are the elite of all creation. There is and will forever be more to the picture, something greater then what we understand.

    Please question everything, including your faith…

    http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com – Free online Knowledge – Email me for more sources: ryantoronyi@hotmail.com

    ~ OUR POLICING/MILITARY FORCES ~

    AS LONG AS THERE IS IGNORANCE IN SOCIETY, THERE WILL BE INJUSTICE AND CRIME:

    – We are animals of gaining knowledge therefore it is safe to assume that while we don’t all share the same knowledge we will discover disagreements within ourselves and those we live amongst.

    WE ARE EMOTIONAL CREATURES:

    – We allow our emotions at times to dictate our actions, although this feature of our existence requires more understanding, it remains a truth.
    – We will find that we all share an “evil” inside us, and at times (right or wrong) we act upon that “evil” as a part of who we are. Let’s not forget about the “great” inside us, and what wondrous outcomes hail from which.

    WE KNOW BETTER:

    Even though I’ll admit that Policing/Military forces can serve a purpose (world aid, etc… – this is another long discussion), I still can’t help but believe that the human race would continue to exist with or without such power controlling forces…

    – Just as we have the ability to act criminally we have the ability to act morally.
    – The only time our opinions on a situation contain any value, are when the actions taken affect us directly and/or indirectly. This seeming to be the case for just about everything that happens amongst our species (for every action there exist a reaction), it rests as evidence that if justice is to be served and the final decision is to contain any solid form of social justification, then it must be the decision of the majority of every opinion, not just the opinions of those in power with the loudest voices!

    THE AMOUNT OF POLICING/MILITARY FORCES HAVE NOT AND WILL NEVER COMPLETELY CONTROL ANY INJUSTICES, UNTIL THEY HAVE COMPLETE CONTROL WHICH IS AN INJUSTICE TO ALL THOSE BEING CONTROLLED:

    Please read this twice…

    – We have proven that unless the environment of our situation is fully controlled we are allowing the possibility for actions of “hatred” to prevail. However we also prevail with actions of “greatness”. Full control will eliminate the option for either.
    – We live in a society where we will stand by without action and watch something we know is morally wrong occur because we fear the same Policing/Military Forces we have created to protect us from such injustices.
    – We know that Policing/Military Forces don’t prevent crimes of any nature. This is not because there is not enough force, it’s because we cannot predict an uncontrolled future.

    Chaos will always exist – it is a required element of evolution…

    WE NEED TO ACCEPT THAT WE ARE NOT PERFECT THERE WILL BE ACTIONS OF CRIME UNTIL WE UNDERSTAND OUR BEHAVIOUR:

    – Too many of us are guilty of placing more of our efforts towards our own personal gains without taking the consideration of the wellbeing of others into mind.
    – We are guilty of accepting the belief that we are “evil” on a primitive level, instead of simply ignorant and misunderstood like every other creature that exists.
    – This “primitive” level of our existence is studied under the research of our reptilian complex.

    IF YOU ARE CAPABLE OF DEFENDING YOUR BELIEFS AND PERSONAL JUSTICES THEN YOU SHOULD DO SO – JUST AS YOU SHOULD DO FOR THOSE AROUND YOU WHO CAN’T DEFEND THEIR RIGHTS…

    I AM GIVING MYSELF THE AUTHORITY TO HELP AID AND DEFEND MY FELLOW PERSON – I ASK YOU DO THE SAME…

    People are good, until given reasons to justify their “bad” actions…

    I was once told that everything in life can be justified – Are we intelligent enough to know what needs to be justified?

    ~ OUR SOCIETY ~

    How do you expect us to behave? You tell us not to allow our anger to bring harm to our neighbors across the street, but you do nothing better then make us heroes when we do worst to our neighbors in foreign countries because of an anger you’ve created?…

    NO ONE CAN GIVE A SINGLE REASON TO WANT ANYTHING LESS THEN WORLD PEACE – WE ALL WANT BETTER LIVES:

    – The reality of obtaining world peace although appears to require major change actually requires ZERO effort. The major changes come after we realize this truth.
    – It is our biggest contradiction that we continue to believe that this achievement requires war.

    http://www.hfxpeace.chebucto.org/ – Free online Knowledge – Email me for more sources: ryantoronyi@hotmail.com

    The realities I’m faced with today will show in the actions I take in my future…

    I will not directly support what I don’t agree with – this statement should be true for everyone…

    NOT ONCE DID I SAY THAT GOVERNING SYSTEMS DON’T WORK, THAT POLICING/MILITARY FORCES SERVE NO PURPOSE, OR THAT RELIGION’S ARE FALSE CONCEPTS. – THIS IS IMPORTANT:

    – We are all born into the moral sins of our ancestors. This is part of how we evolve/improve as a species. It is our responsibility on an individual level that we recognize how our actions affect the collective.
    – We have allowed the development of our society we must share the responsibility of fixing the problems we discover within it.

    The next steps we take are the most important – this will always be true…

    THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU REALLY WANT OUT OF LIFE:

    – To own shelter and protection from the elements
    – To have food to prevent hunger
    – To find love worth everything
    – To have family and friends to celebrate existence with
    – To have others who will provide aid when required
    – To have the ability to return a favor
    – To just feel “good” about the person you are

    ~ WE ALL DESERVE EQUALITY ~

    I am still searching for someone who wants anything less – the truth is that when you take a global perspective you realize that the majority of us don’t have what we all deserve. Stop believing that there is nothing you can do…

    QUESTION EVERYTHING YOU THINK YOU UNDERSTAND:

    GOVERNMENT – How does this system work? Is it required?
    TAXES – Why do we pay taxes? What do they fund?
    IDENTIFICATION – Why are we being named, numbered, and organized?
    RELIGION – Should any faith require the element of fear? Should we not question our faith?
    HUMANKIND – Who are we? Are we actually intelligent?

    I disagree with the structure of societies under all forms of hierarchy – because the people on top believe they have more value than those below them, and the people on the bottom dangerously lack the intelligence to know better – all us of breath the same air, we are all here for the same reason – to enjoy our lives as much as possible…

    HERE ARE THE REAL SECRETS TO LIFE:

    MONEY HAS NO VALUE – IT IS A FORM OF CONTROLLING LARGE POPULATIONS – RESEARCH THIS FOR YOUR SELF:

    – Money is not a bad idea, it makes trade more convenient. The problem with money is obvious, we made it worth everything – It truly became the almighty dollar.
    – We have given it so much value that we became purchasable.

    To imagine that something as small and simple as a coin in my hand would hold enough value to another person they’d take my life from me for it…

    What holds real value cannot be stolen to hold real value for anyone else…

    THERE IS ONLY ONE LAW – DO UNTO OTHER AS YOU WOULD HAVE OTHERS DO UNTO YOU.

    YOU DESRERVE COMPLETE FREEDOM – YOU ARE A SLAVE TO THE ORDER OF A SOCIETY THAT ULTIMATELY DOESN’T CARE ABOUT YOUR PERSONAL WELLBEING:

    – We are taught that our freedoms cost the lives of many in war and that we should continue to support the ability to protect what freedoms we have, while we continue fighting for the freedoms we lack.

    When did one person take freedom away from another? How did they do it? Why did they do it? What is one person’s freedom worth?

    – The action of fighting for our freedoms is the statement that admits we don’t have them.
    – Freedom can not be stolen – it has to be given away. We give up our freedoms when we fear those who threaten us.

    The act of war is something that should embarrass us…
    The brave will walk forward in peace, despite the threatening actions of others. They are fearless of everything including their own suffering and death…

    I will not remember and honor the soldiers we have and continue to lose without the same consideration for the lives they have and continue to take. ~ PEACE TO ALL ~

    YOU HAVE AS MUCH VALUE AND POTENTIAL AS EVERYONE ELSE – YOU ARE EQUAL IN EVERY MEASURE THAT MATTERS.

    IF SOMETHING IS WORTH DYING FOR, THEN IT’S WORTH KILLING TO PROTECT – BE VERY CAREFUL WITH THIS STATEMENT – THINK ABOUT WHAT HOLDS THE MOST VALUE IN YOUR LIFE:

    – This statement will hold truth until our level of intelligence rises.
    – The most dangerous thing you can do in your life is threaten what holds the most value to another person.
    – Understand that just because a statement holds truth, doesn’t make it right for every situation.

    We unfortunately do not always think before we act…

    ALL ACTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES – JUST AS ALL ACTIONS ARE CONSEQUENCES.

    IF YOU ARE BEING CONTROLLED – YOU ARE ALLOWING IT.

    *** QUESTION THIS DOCUMENT – RESEARCH THE VALIDITY OF THE INFORMATION YOU’VE JUST RECEIVED, DISCOVER THE TRUTH FOR YOURSELF ***

    You might want to read this again to avoid any misunderstanding…

    MY NAME IS RYAN PATRICK TORONYI, I WAS BORN IN AUGUST 1979 – CHRISTIAN CALENDER, ON EARTH, AND I WILL DIE FEARLESS WHEN IT HAPPENS – READY TO WELCOME WHAT COMES NEXT.

    The collective development of this document was only possible because of the knowledge obtained by those who knew/know what needs to be understood. As such, this document has and will continue to evolve. The World Wide Web is our global consciousness…

    READY TO TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANY OF MY ACTIONS AS I LIVE IN SUPPORT OF: FREEDON OF VOICE, FREEDOM OF ACTION, AND FREEDOM TO ACHIEVE WORLD PEACE…

    ~ THE FUTURE IS NOW ~

  4. Rob permalink
    November 19, 2007 5:35 am

    I feel bad for people who believe in fairytales like Christianity. One part that this film did NOT mention is Zoroastrianism. Zoraster was ancient, Iranian prophet. His religion predates Christianity by 330 years. He was responsible for the idea of heaven and hell, and a constant battle between good and evil. This was adopted EXACTLY by christianity. If you can’t see that organized religion is one huge crock of shit, man… I pity you. Take off your blinders, walk into a forest, and feel nature, life and the world around you. Now ask yourself how the hell anybody could come up with a story as stupid and unrealistic as Jesus Christ, given what you are surrounded by. Jesus, and his religion, is man-made.

  5. Ashley permalink
    October 6, 2009 2:17 am

    I just read a very interesting book, Who Made the Moon. It discusses science and faith. You should read it.

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